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Muslim courts are here already

Sharia law is operating in secret in many British towns and cities, the Daily Express can reveal.

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ANOTHER THOUGHT

14.02.08, 2:24pm

I have been reading, off and on, a book entitled "Unholy Alliance". It gives some insight into the reason that far left groups give such a huge well of support to the
Islamics.

Basically, you need to see Marx as the prophet and Communism as inevitable. One of the tenets of faith is that religion is only a tool of repression and will somehow automatically disappear when the repression ceases, therefore helping the religious fanatics overthrow the horrible Western culture. This will bring on a golden age, no longer needing religion, so the groups most at risk (women's rights, gay rights) need not worry. It may not be rational, but it does explain some seeming contradictions.

Now, seeing that the EU has been developed and expanded amongst Marxist lines (hence frequent references to the EUSSR) and that individual European government's policies including ours are 100% driven by Brussels, it all starts to make a little more sense...

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A JEW'S INTERPRETATION OF EVENTS

14.02.08, 2:18pm

British appeasement concerning the war on terror, the nature of the family, and the rule of law are part of a larger pattern. Even more than the security threat posed by Islamist violence, these trends are challenging and perhaps will change the very nature of Western life.

Please look to an American's interpretation of recent events in the UK. As a Jew, he is very aware of the horrors that await us as "Dhimmis" under Shariah Law.

Posted 13th Feb:

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5462

Incidentally there are now more Muslims than Jews in the USA.

• Posted by: NoisySiamese • Report Comment

NOISY

13.02.08, 7:44pm

Your augument ais almost identical to that used by Hitler to justify the removal of democracy in Germany.

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THE TORIES ARE NU LABOUR IN DEISGUISE

13.02.08, 7:07pm

Hitler murdered around 17 million people, including around 6 million Jews. But please don't forget that in the 20th Century Communists murdered around 110 million people.

Now, have you ever stopped to wonder why 40% of people don't bother to vote anymore? Have you ever stopped to wonder why, which ever party is in power, nothing ever gets any better? Have you ever stopped to wonder why all the three major political parties in the UK have broadly the same policies? The answer is simple - political correctness. This left wing ideology has very cleverly, and by stealth, REPLACED BRITISH POLITICS. None of the main parties now dare suggest any policy that is not politically correct otherwise the PC Brigade will label them the 'nasty' party. Witness the Conservative party policy U turns. In a desperate effort to lose their 'nasty' party label they have become Blue Labour, a slightly diluted form of New Labour!

Blue Labour / Useless Tories (The Conservative Party)

Once the natural party of government in the UK, they lost their way after the demise of Margaret Thatcher. The ERM crisis in the mid 90's did further damage to their image and then came the sleaze, which was ruthlessly exploited by Labour's Tony Blair to remove the party from office. Theirs was "personal" sleaze. New Labour's is rot and corruption at the heart of government.

Completely outclassed in the PR department and portrayed as the nasty party, it totally lost confidence in itself and what it stood for. A succession of leaders further muddied the waters and then in 2005, David Cameron decided if he kept quiet about policy and just copied New Labour then there was a chance they would be re-elected without anyone noticing. This party without principles isn't even a party anymore.

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NOISY

13.02.08, 6:13pm

Not surprised at your comments and the fact that you even found something positive to say about Hitler. If you care to take the time you will find that our council estates have plenty of pure white home bred yobs,drug dealers,rapists,muggers and scum who answer to no one because the Police wont deal with them. I do agree with you that if the mainstream parties dont do something the people in these situations will turn to the extremists as did many in Hitlers Germany which in the end left millions of Jewish people murdered in the concentration camps. Lest we forget!

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THE TRUTH

13.02.08, 12:02pm

Even if you vote liberal and want a global village you will baulk when your child or yourself are forced to conform to the Sharia law that your "hug the third world" attitude has brought you. The shame is that these average middle class Guardian readers are insulated from the world that they have such strong opinions about by money. They don’t send their kids to inner city schools or God forbid invite Somali immigrants into their homes, but their plans for the world must be implemented all the same.
The problem is that these privileged few have come from the people who actually do live amongst the crime and the jihad that their open door policy brings to this small country. These people are the ones who are going to vote BNP or UKIP. These are the people you meet everyday in the street. The truth is unless you are of the wealthy middle class and privileged enough to have the time to ponder an ideal world, you will not meet a single white person who thinks Britain is not screwed up. I have yet to meet anybody who believes the Muslims in Britain have anything to offer.
And that is the immovable rock that the Muslims will have to beat themselves against if they are to conquer Britain. People do not like jihad in Britain. This is not Spain where blowing up a train on the right day will determine an election. Here we would vote the opposite way out of sheer bloody spite.
Even Hitler had something to offer the German people. Islam offers nothing but pain to everybody it meets including itself.
I ask you one question.
DOES ISLAM HAVE EVEN A SINGLE REDEEMING FEATURE ABOUT IT?
Face the question squarely.
This savage and barbaric ideology is one massive violation of human rights and breeds up the very worst sort of violence, abuse and intolerance. There is no compelling reason for us to allow its practice within the United Kingdom. I invite arguments to the contrary.

” Oh, but it's only family law!”
First they came to change the school lunch menus
and I did not speak out
because I am no longer in school
Then they came to change the government washrooms
and I did not speak out
because I do not work for the government
Then they came to change the family law
and I did not speak out
because I am unmarried
Then they came to force me to worship Allah
and there was no one left
to speak out for me

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NOISY SIAMESE

12.02.08, 6:05pm

Hope this Shrewsbury BNP supporting company director has a lot more about her than the poor dears that Sky TV program showed recently as the leading BNP wives or its no wonder her business is on the slide.

Shrewsbury use to have a little clique of National Front Supporters in the seventies so perhaps its not surprising that the BNP has a small clique who support it.

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THE ARCHBISHOP OF CANTERBURY

10.02.08, 5:59pm

Dr Rowan Williams has to defend
Christianity instead of worrying about other
religous groups. Everyone in this country is
equal under the law, so if some Muslims are
not happy living in this country, why are they
wanting to continue living in the UK, unless of
course they are taking full advantage of the
welfare state.

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THE VIOLENT OPPRESSION OF WOMEN IN ISLAM

10.02.08, 2:37pm

This is NOT for children or the faint-hearted. It IS shocking but this is the road that we in Britain seem to be going down. Elements of everything you see in this video already happen over here. Today, most of it is illegal... but THEIR todays are OUR tomorrows.

http://www.terrorismawareness.org/videos/108/the-violent-oppression-of-women-in-islam/

• Posted by: NoisySiamese • Report Comment

MUSLIM COURTS

10.02.08, 12:47pm


Is the Express the Official organ of the BNP then?

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SHARI'A

10.02.08, 12:27pm

Shari'a Lite is a free, Shari'a the full version will cost you and arm and a leg.

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THIS IS ENGLAND, MARTIN!

10.02.08, 4:15am

I agree with EnglishMyst and all other Brits who see the folly of the AofC's position! This traitor is Head of the CofE and as such, should defend and honour Christian laws and values! If he can't do that (which is obvious), step aside!

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EXTREMES OF RELIGION

10.02.08, 1:31am

A real can of worms has been opened here! I am a born again Christian. Today my husband and I do not attend any churches in our area because (as prophesied) the majority of churches throughout the world are in apostasy as was clearly predicted in two New Testament passages 11 Thess 2:1-3 and 1 Tim 4:1 and its character is found in 1 Tim 4:1-3. Therefore we choose, in response to God's Word to "come out and be ye separate from apostates" false teachers who distort God's Word and who teach and preach Replacement Theology. So, we study with Doctor Arnold G Fruchtenbaum (Ariel.org). Having identified my position I say that extreme religious groups which name the name of Jesus and yet, still live under law keeping are described as "accursed" "Anathema". It is declared in the strongest manner that to go back under the Law is to nullify the sufficiency of the Death of Christ. These laws were rendered null and void at the cross. Jesus came to fulfil all 613 Jewish laws. Today, we have various wacky churches who stand outside abortion clinics and shoot doctors who provide abortions and others who abuse homosexuals and even kill them thinking they are doing God a service. The law of Christ Gal 6:2 is embodied in His own character and life and superior to all human interpretations of it. The royal law (James 2:8) the law of LOVE, royal in the sense of the Kingship of Jesus,and upon which all other laws of the NT now hang. It doesn't seem to occur to them that God is big enough to handle things himself. The only thing God would require a Christian to do is to convey His Word lovingly and patiently to all who would hear as His Great Commission commands. God gives people the freedom to choose for themselves. However, within a community of Believers there is a ruling body of Believers called Elders within each individual church who are "counted worthy of ...honour...who .teach, feed the flock as pastor, anoint the sick and supervise financial matters..he should be the husband of one wife (one-woman-man). There are other specifics concerning this matter but when it is acted upon consistently the church should it is hoped run smoothly and orderly. There are 17 other qualifications I can think of concerning eldership but (Titus 1:6-9) lists all 17 & also he must be above reproach and not open to criticism.

If the Christian faith life is run as the Bible directs then the Christian will also obey God's directive outlined in
Romans 13:1-3 where He COMMANDS CHRISTIANS TO SUBMIT THEMSELVES TO GOVERNING AUTHORITIES .

The Jewish faith too has its own rules for conduct within its church and so do other systems of religious faith.

Orthodox Jews have managed to successfully integrate into Gentile nations without causing much fuss. They have their own religious laws which they observe with great diligence. However they have integrated well into British, American, Australian and other societies because they are willing to obey most secular laws of those countries.

In contrast, many Muslims do not integrate well into non-Islamic countries because when they find something not to their liking about the laws of their adopted country they turn violent and want to overthrow that legal system.

Therefore Believers of any systems of faith should obey the Laws of their adopted country.

People dressed in clerical garb are often used in the media to impress people as to the worthiness of their religious teaching when in fact it is false teaching both from the secular viewpoint and also from a Biblical viewpoint. This man is one such person. He is a purveyor of a false gospel and is in fact worse than one who preaches Replacement Theology. He preaches multi-faithism. Any Government who listens to this man is in big trouble.

The man Britain should have listened to on the 20th April 1968 was Enoch Powell, British Conservative MP for Wolverhamton South-West for his speech, in part said:- "We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual overflow of some 50,000 dependents, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre. So insane are we that we actually permit unmarried persons to immigrate for the purpose of founding a family with spouses and fiances whom they have never seen." He affirmed that all citizens should be equal before the law and he described what he considered the position of the indigenous population would be:- "For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country. They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school place, their homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the immigrant worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the native-born worker, they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted. On top of this they now learn that a one-way privilege is to be established by Act of Parliament, a law which cannot, and is not in tended to operate to protect them or redress their grievances.... As I look ahead I am filled with foreboding, Like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood". That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect. Indeed it has all but come. In numerical terms, it will be of American proportions long before the end of the century. Only resolute and urgent action will avert it now. Whether there will be the public will to demand and obtain that action, I do not know. All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be a great betrayal." Well, he was sacked for that speech. Enoch, the Christian, who gave his warning to the people to be ignored to their peril.

In No vember 2007, Nigel Hastilow resigned as Conservative candidate for Halesowen and Rowley Regis after an article in the Wolverhampton Express and Star:- "Enoch, once MP for Wolverhampton South-West, was sacked from the Conservative front beach and marginalised politically for his 1968 Rivers of Blood speech warning that uncontrolled immigration would change our country irrevocably. He was right........"

I pray that Gordon Brown and those who stand beside him at this time will at last stand up and be counted where others have failed so spectacularly to see the truth.

• Posted by: Grevillea • Report Comment

TO SHARIA LAW

10.02.08, 12:47am

It is not just polgamy but Muslims now have their own parliament, law courts and no-go areas, where, in the fullness of time, even the Home Secretary will require a visa to enter. We even have Muslim Police officers association. Can anyone imagine the fuss iof there was a White Police officers assciation?

I'm astonished that in the UK, parliament which is supreme, and jealously guards its pre-eminence, allows any other parliament to challenge its authority.

All this should come as no surprise to those who have bothered to study Islam and its history.

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SHARIA LAW

10.02.08, 12:16am

A MAN WITH THREE WIVES RECIEVES BENIFITS FOR EACH ONE ,HOW COME THIS GOVERNMENT ALLOWS THIS????
BRITISH LAW IS ONE WIFE ONLY
IT SEEMS LIKE THE GOVERNMENT ACCEPT
SHARIA LAW AND DOES NOTHING ABOUT IT
THESE PRIVATE COURTS SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN AS THEY ARE ILLEAGAL IN THIS COUNTRY,WHAT ARE THE POLICE DOING ABOUT IT ???????????? NOTHING AS USUAL
THEY ARE BREAKING BRITISH LAWS

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