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The time has come for Muslims to fully adopt the British way of life

IT WAS the Church of England’s Gerald Ratner moment, wasn’t it?

THE TIME HAS COME FOR MUSLIMS TO FULLY ADOPT THE BRITISH WAY OF LIFE

29.06.08, 8:57pm

This country is not a melting pot. It is a sizzling cauldron. There is no way that Muslims will integrate. They believe that they are following the true religion and that we are all decadent and godless Kaffirs. There is undoubtedly going to be an increasingly dangerous and explosive situation in this country and indeed Europe as a whole. We have all been let down by politicians who have failed in their duty, been dishonourable in their actions and totally disloyal to those of us who consider this country to be our ancient and historical homeland. Those who wish to destroy nation states must first destroy the indigenous people. It is happening with barely a squeak of protest.

• Posted by: Pat_Riot • Report Comment

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ROSS LOGIE: CHRISTLESS IS UN-BRITISH

21.02.08, 9:10am

Dear Mr Logie, Your naive and simple faith in the rubbish of the godless religion (which, like so many other modern lies, demands euphemism - in this case "atheism", or even better yet, "humanism") is a personal folly to which you are freely entitled, however in groups delusional people like you are really quite dangerous.

Believing such a fantastic lie ("spontaneous generation" - talk about medevial superstitions, Ha!) as a personal succour of your innate sense of right and wrong and judgement to come ("hell to pay" is the expression that comes to mind) might in your individual case not effect terribly your behaviour (the Christian culture of England still has a legacy that is paying dividends, even so many years since any revival was seen) - but the matter over time and in groups will be, and now is, a complete break down.

You may not like such inconvenient Truths, but the AV Bible is not going to put up for a vote. You are completely free to call it old-fashion rubbish - although at the peril of your eternal soul - but we as a nation do well to heed its sacred words and stop this multicultural madness.

• Posted by: RoryBuzzlightning • Report Comment

SOME THOUGHTS FOR RORYBUZZLIGHTNING

20.02.08, 3:47am

Dear Rory,

Much of what you say about the dangers of Islam is indeed true it is just your reasoning that is flawed. You assume the existence of God or the veracity of the scriptures “as a given” to support your comments and therefore feel it unnecessary to justify either. I am sorry to be the bearer of inconvenient news but there isn’t a nano scrap of evidence that either has any basis in fact.

I do of course accept that there is no evidence that there isn’t a God in the same way that the eminent biologist Richard Dawkins says there is no evidence that there isn’t fairies at the bottom of the garden; or as the late mathematician and philosopher Bertrand Russell put it, there is no evidence that there isn’t a teapot orbiting the Sun between the Earth and Mars.

As far as I can see all religions are “ignorance based” but as ignorance is slowly replaced by education, particularly science, the influence of religion diminishes as is evident today in modern Britain. It is interesting that few scientists, astronomers or physicists alive today would advocate the existence of a God or creator as described in the man created mumbo jumbo of any holy book.

Christians can and do question religious teaching whereas Islam precludes any such discussion and as always recommends the killing of anyone who challenges the tenets of Islam. Is it any wonder that there is a world of difference in terms of enlightenment between the two? Here endeth the lesson!

Yours sincerely,

Ross Logie

• Posted by: Ross • Report Comment

LIKE OIL AND WATER

19.02.08, 11:15am

Islam and the west cannot mix.
The contempt that the majority of Brits now have for Islam is undeniably evident and I take my hat off, to Patrick, for this article.

The British Bulldog is about to bare his teeth.

• Posted by: Armageddon • Report Comment

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THE TIME HAS COME FOR MUSLIMS TO FULLY ADOPT THE BRITISH WAY OF LIFE

16.02.08, 12:28pm

We are not obliged to assist in the expansion of the Islamosphere. People have genuine and understandable concerns about Islam and until these concerns are answered people are justified in being suspicious of Islamic institutions and sceptical when politicians make their statements on the subject. If all the Government can do is stigmatise, or even demonise, those who ask awkward questions then such fears will not be assuaged.

If people are bullied and jailed for questioning Islam, then their fears are probably well founded because shutting people up stinks of hiding the truth. In the Middle Ages heresy laws punished those who criticised religious orthodoxy. The more Shari’a law that we are expected to accommodate and respect the closer we go back to that era of religious intolerance.

If people get hysterical when their Prophet is mocked and the Government caves in to demands to outlaw such mockery then we are indeed returning to an age of real intolerance. In the West we have a tradition of mocking religion and this is a desirable part of our culture as it helps to limit the power of religious officials.

The expansion of Shari’a law and the restrictions that have been placed on free expression seem very closely related, or even linked, issues. Both are components of a worrying trend in our society. If people want Shari’a on the one hand and restrictions to free expression then who can blame people for being suspicious.

Since Shari’a restricts free expression and British free expression is being eroded, it appears to me that Shari’a principles are already being applied to the civil law making process.

• Posted by: Aeneas • Report Comment

THEY ARE NEVER GOING TO ADMIT TO ANYTHING.

15.02.08, 10:37am

I keep telling you they have sold us out.

They are orchestrating the islamisation of Britain!!

Gordon Brown along with man of straw, and the rest of the PC liberal loony brigade are bringing about the total and utter destruction of a nation and its way of life.

Brown is the chief architect, determined at any cost after chasing leadership for years to succeed where TB failed.

AT ANY COST.

So he sold his soul to Satan (Grand mufti of Saudi)
Literally

It is now up to the British public to ensure the future safety and security of our nation

thankfully there are those in the upper echelons of power, that not only recognise the problem but are prepared to take action.

Question is how far are they prepared to go.

How far are the good people of this nation prepared to go, in order to secure our future.

I have stated from the beginning of my campaign that
Borders must be closed
Mosques must be closed
And ALL practising muslims deported.

I stand by those comments

And anything short of that will result in disaster, and bloodshed for the British public

I should of course say prolonged disaster for the British public.

As I fully expect that this Evil horde will mobilize and attack whenever and wherever they can.

So the quicker we can get rid ourselves of this menace the better.

Now having said all that, what people are still not taking into account is the quickening of events nuclear and open warfare that are unfolding in the M.E.

I have already stated both here and in the express of what Iran are up to regards their nuclear program. Their intentions are very clear, and we better wake up to that fact.

also known as concernedbrit

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• Posted by: an_EX_tory • Report Comment

THE TIME HAS COME FOR MUSLIMS TO FULLY ADOPT......

14.02.08, 4:09am

"you cannot be serious!"
Muslims will NEVER integrate or assimilate but seek to DOMINATRE via sharia and "islamcreep".
If they wanted to integrate they would have demonstrated that intention before now. Instead we have witnessed indiscriminate terror attacks, multiple terrorist attacks thwarted and the continuing, relentless & often invisible attacks on our way of life and ruination of our welfare state due to overbreeding, polyagmy, llaziness and downright greed and inherent evil as practiced by their "so-called prophet" who we should always puiblicise, was married at the age of 54 to a 6 year year old called aisha. She was his favourite wife and the marriage was consummated when she was....9 yrs old!
Islam is not a religion but a totalitarian cult and must be removed from the UK follwed by the rest of the planet.

• Posted by: reiver • Report Comment

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YOU STILL MISS THE POINT

13.02.08, 7:28pm

O'Flynn's essay, although well meaning and much more sensible than the politically correct drivel that continues to ooze upon us at every turn, still totally misses the point.

Until the God-ordained truth of His Will that there be racial and national separation over the entire Earth is realized by us all (especially the clueless political leaders) there will be no progress whatsoever in understanding just how foolheaded and doomed to failure the whole experiment with race-mixing and immigration is.

We recognize the fact that foreign rats and weeds can invade pristine islands and kill off the native flora and fauna - but this simple truth is, for whatever reason, ignored when it comes to the people God set upon this planet. Why is that?

Before some do-gooder ninny, who has no idea what she is talking about, says "God wants us to love our neighbours" (as if the native born were not our neighbours) read what the Bible actually says about it:

Deut. 32:8 "When the Most High DIVIDED [not united!] to the nations THEIR INHERITANCE [not communal living!!], when he SEPARATED [he separated the races!!] the sons of Adam, he set the BOUNDS [national borderrs that are NOT to be crossed!] of the people according to the number of the children of Israel."

It is a New Testament doctrine as well:

Acts 17:26-27 "And hath made of one blood [ALL HUMAN] all nations of men [SEPARATE NATIONS] for to dwell on all the face of the earth [NOT ALL IN ONE PLACE], and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation [WHERE THEY ARE SUPPOSE TO LIVE AND WHERE THEY ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO LIVE]; 17:27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: [RACIAL SEPARATION LEADS TO A MORE RELIGIOUS AND GOD-SEEKING SOCIETY]."

There you have it. The problem is racial. This island is a land of white Anglo-Saxon Europeans, from the German and Celtic tribes that descended from Japeth, Adam's eldest son.

All the blacks are Hammites (decsendants of Adam's yougest son), and the Arabs, Jews, and Asians are Shemites (from Adam's son Shem). They are NOT suppose to be living here. It's simply WRONG.

Asking them to change their manner of living is like asking a polar bear in Morocco to "get use to the heat". It won't work. God made them the way they are - which is NOT like us at all. And we are not like them. We figured out that last part when we ended colonialism and came home. Not it time for them to learn the former and go home as well. Let's all simply leave each other alone.

Good Fences make good neighbours.

• Posted by: RoryBuzzlightning • Report Comment

TROUBLED TIMES

13.02.08, 7:25pm

It is clear from polls that some 50% of Muslims in the UK wish to see shari’a law here. The rest are simply practising Taqqiya. Most of us have now lost patience with Muslims, for never has a group of immigrants been as much trouble, been more violent, ungrateful to their adopted country, and actually wage war on it, as have Muslims.

Despite the fact that it must be clear to Muslims that they are not liked here, why is it that Muslims still stay here, even though they have a choice of over 50 Muslim countries? Any group or community with any sense of honour or shame, such as Hindus or Sikhs, would have long gone by now.

Sadly, I have come to the conclusion that separation from Islam is the only option that avoids serious civil strife. It’s that or we can look forward to increasing intrusive security measures by the government, stress of a society under strain, forever and a day.

• Posted by: DavePr • Report Comment

CONVOLUTED LOGIC

13.02.08, 6:51pm

Most of the time I am completely dumbfounded at the convoluted logic of the tolerance crowd here in the US and Europe. Any Christian that would dare utter the things that come out of the average mullah's mouth would literally be 'run out on a rail.' Yet the very same proponents of tolerance expect and outright demand that Western countries allow immigration by Muslims that are in absolute polar opposition to everything the tolerance crowd supposedly stands for.

As if there isn't enough contradiction, the very same tolerance crowd regularly berates Western countries about their colonial past and the imposing of their culture on their former empire. Yet they willingly let Muslims immigrate to Western countries without ever assimilating into it, to the point that now wherever Muslims have the numbers they are attempting to impose their culture on their adopted country. If that's not colonial imperialism, what is?

Tolerance has to be a two way street. Allowing a group to come in, not assimilate, and take over a society is not immigration...it's colonization.

• Posted by: IAUSAMatt • Report Comment

IMPRESSIVE ARTICLE!

13.02.08, 6:17pm

Congratulations to Patrick Flynn for expressing the truth so succinctly.

Muslim culture is parasitic, misogynistic, violent and fanatical.

Muslim cultures the world over create almost no net wealth, with the notable exceptions of the Oil extraction economies - who rely on foreign-trained personnel to extract their country's wealth for them.

Muslims have gained a derisory percentage of Nobel prizes relative to the Muslim population of the planet. - except for the Peace prize category. Which just goes to show what a hideous left-wing sham the Peace prize has become.

And Muslim cultures are violent. As Samuel Huntington, author of 'The Clash of Civilizations?' states: "Islam has bloody borders.''

No one can seriously doubt this. From Nigeria to Sudan to Pakistan to Indonesia to the Philippines, the worst, most hate- driven violence in the world today is perpetrated by Muslims and is carried out in the name of Islam.

We need to completely prohibit immigration by Muslims, just as we would stop immigration by Kali cultists. The 'religion' of Islam is nothing more than a fanatic Jew-hating death cult - why should we give it house-room?

• Posted by: Toby • Report Comment

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IT IS INDEED TIME FOR MUSLIMS TO INTEGRATE, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!

13.02.08, 5:41pm

First of all, I should like to applaud Mr O'Flynn for cutting to the chase in the excellent article. It is indeed time, nay high time, for Muslims to "fully adopt the British way of life". Unfortunately, however, it is not likely ever to happen. Why? Because the notion of integration runs counter to the Muslim's faith. The prophet Muhammad told them in clear terms NOT to integrate with the infidel; in fact, he went further than this: He told them to dress differently and at all times to tell themselves apart in their manner of dress and behaviour.

Further, Muslims, according to their faith, are supposed to accept the laws of the land wherever they live, but only when those laws passed by government do not contradict or conflict with Islamic law. Where there is a contradiction or conflict of interest, Muslims are supposed to be faithful to Islam, and Allah's commands.

Muslims view the United Kingdom and indeed all of the West as the lands of the infidel. The lands of the infidel belong to the 'House of War', or 'Dar ul Harb'. The 'House of War' is in a state of 'Jahillyyah', or a pre-Islamic state of chaos. This, in their eyes, is an inferior state of being, one which is ripe for takeover at the earliest convenience.

It is therefore hard to see how the majority of Muslims will ever be prepared to integrate into British society as full citizens of our country. The so-called 'moderate Muslims' might, for a time, but what is a 'moderate Muslim' anyway? A moderate Muslim is actually only a Muslim in name, a nominal Muslim. A nominal Muslim can, at any time in the future, re-find his roots and faith and become devout. Indeed, so many of them eventually do, especially as they get older and settle down. Then they can be a better rôle model for their children. At that point, the women start veiling up, and the men start growing their beards ever-longer. This is the reality of the problem we face with Muslims.

To my knowledge, there is no precedent for this integration in world history; on the contrary, each and every country Muslims have ever been allowed to enter and put down roots, they have eventually taken over: Egypt, Libya, Syria, the Lebanon (in the process of being Islamized as I write this), etc. The only exception was Moorish Spain, and that country was Islamized for centuries. It took the Spaniards more than five hundred years to regain their former land, but the re-conquest, or 'Reconquista', was ugly and bloody.

So, it seems to me that we are hoping against hope in waiting for the full integration of Muslims in our midst. Indeed, history tells us that the opposite is more likely to be the case: The indigenous population of Great Britain is more likely, eventually, to be coerced into accepting Islam. Either that, or become 'dhimmis'. This, if we are not careful, will be achieved through cultural creep.

This is the sad reality which the Archdhimmi of Canterbury refuses to come to terms with, despite all his so-called erudition and intellectuality.

• Posted by: MarkAlexander • Report Comment

AN UNCOMFORTABLE TRUTH

13.02.08, 1:30am

I have immense admiration for the courage of the Editors for stating an uncomfortable truth in the teeth of years of PC indoctrination.

The government and its agencies have devoted huge amounts of money to help Muslims "integrate" in the West. All of these will come to nothing, as Islam is their faith, and these efforts will wash over them.

What we don’t seem to realise is that we do not have the right to tell Muslims in the West, how to behave, what to wear, or what is acceptable or not as regards homosexuality or women's freedom etc. Muslims believe what they believe, as their religion tells them to, and have no real choice in the matter. That is their human right, and we should respect that. It is patronising in the extreme for us to lecture them on these matters.

However, we do have the right to tell them to take their attitudes and go where such attitudes are acceptable. In this we will be doing everyone a favour, for I fear a civil war in Europe that will make Bosnia look like a garden party. This is inevitable, as Muslims are required by the Koran to wage war( Jihad) until Islam is dominant. It is not their fault but ours, for allowing them into Britain.

In such a civil war, innocents will be killed (civil wars are always like that). It is far better and humane to have a peaceful separation from Muslims - financial inducements and recompense being the way forward, for Muslims to go back to nations where their customs are acceptable.

I feel really sad that it has come to this, but unfortunately we have to do something, for our internal peace has been shattered, which not even the Nazis could do.

• Posted by: DavePr • Report Comment

OPTION D)

12.02.08, 6:53pm

No muslims in the UK
I think this would be the most popular choice.

• Posted by: urban • Report Comment

VERY TRUE

12.02.08, 5:05pm

Too true, can you have a word with that pathetic pair of lightweights Richard and Judy and explain this fully to them. You might have to empty their heads of cotton wool first.

• Posted by: Col • Report Comment

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