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18 hours in police cell – for dropping apple

A MAN accused of dropping an apple core in the street hit out at police last night after being held in a cell for 18 hours.

HOW DO WE FEEL ABOUT OUR POLICE "FORCE" NOW?

23.05.08, 5:08pm

Speaking as a perfectly law abiding human being I was a little surprised when someone asked me the question "If you saw a police officer, council enforcement officer or Cso being beaten by a gang of yobs - what would you do?" I had to give this some thought. A few years ago I wouldn't have given it thought at all - I would have answered "Help the officer of course!" but now .... after reading more and more stories like this one I would have to answer, like others have, "I would watch for a while and walk on by". I never thought I would feel this way. The way I've justified this to myself is that the people who do these jobs must be really freaky, there's something missing from their make up - they themselves are inhuman. Why would I help them? I could imagine that if, in helping them, I dropped something from my pocket that landed on the ground, they would pick themselves up and do me for it. This is the consequence of our "law-makers" attempts to turn us all into "criminals". I cant think what their reasons are but they are achieving what they set out to do.

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WHAT A BUNCH OF PRATS

11.05.08, 11:34am

There's no other way of describing the UK's Police Service ...note, not force, than using the term PRAT'S. A bunch of overpaid, uneducated, time wasting bunch of prat's. What is the answer? If it was possible, sack the bloody lot of them and start again, possibly using armed forces personell who have left the service, ask Brussel's for a intrim police force? that would be a darn site better than the crap what supposed to be protecting the tax paying public. And i no doubt a few of the police will read this mailing ...don't' i repeat "don't" say its all down to paperwork and and those at the top, Its down to you, not being able to do the proper job you're getting paid admirably to do.

• Posted by: Pentest • Report Comment

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WHAT PERSPECTIVE?

11.05.08, 9:24am

"A common law power available to them is if they are unable to confirm someones details they can arest them and take them to a police station so that the can make enquiry into finding out who they are .Doesn`t matter if its a major or minor crime. If somones detsails can`t be confirmed how can they receive a sumons through the post to attend at court ?Posted by: rodg16."

This is ridiculous.

If I have not committed an offence and if I am asked for my name and adddress to get a ticket served, I would DEFINITELY refuse to give my details.

And this does not entitled a petty Cso (called uneducated Community Police Officer) to arrest me on the basis of the immoral and illegal laws passed by this corrupt government, which is only interested in collecting the revenue from the public.

Wouldn't this Officer(? shouldn't they be called a ticket issuing clerk) have run away from the scene, if he had seen a hoody comitting the most serious crimes?

Come on, wake up and welcome to the NuLabour Police State!!!


• Posted by: Nalin • Report Comment

ALBERTTHEDOG - YOU OBVIOUSLY DO NOT SUFFER FROM A LITTER LOUT PROBLEM

11.05.08, 9:16am

If yobs dropped fish & chip cartons, beer cans/bottles and other assorted litter outside your door, like they do mine, you would soon change your tune!

• Posted by: G0LDENARR0W • Report Comment

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POLICE AND THE CORRUPT POLITICIANS!

11.05.08, 9:15am

"Superintendent IAN PALMER, of Greater Manchester Police, said: “Littering is an offence and we work tirelessly to ensure the streets are not only safe but also clean. Officers are expected to challenge anyone seen dropping litter.”

No wonder the public is now finding the police unapproachable and dispise them as they do not deploy their resouces to catch the criminals but are quick to use their powers on old and vulnerable people.

Would this officer had the guts to challenge a hoody? No. he would have run away from the scene of the most serious crime he might have witnessed.

Senior police officers seems to be just working for the corrupt, incompetent politician, providing them personal bodyguards and collecting "illegal and immoral" revenue for the Bank of Gordon Unlimited to pay for their obscene allowances.

May be these officers are happy to be employed and have some crumbs thrown to them by these politicians whereas they would be unemployable anywhere else!

When the rot is at the core (the government), whom can you blame?

• Posted by: Nalin • Report Comment

THE APPLE STORY - THE TRUTH

11.05.08, 6:58am

Someone has already made a comment about CSO officers not being used as we were told and I would go further saying that the possibility of a left wing police state is something that has been made stronger by introducing them.

This is an example of the emergance of that tendancy. The man was accused of being obstructive and dropping an apple core on the ground. The obstruction charge has been dropped and there is no witness to the horror of the apple core but the Cso, so any official can say what they want and the police state is here. Spot fines are an infringement on our rights if they are applied in this manner because the official concerned becomes a god who must be believed and the ones listening are left wingers anyway.

FOOTNOTE:

Most of the cso officers may be genuine but around this area they are trade union appointees who are just good union people that have to be told what to say and doby the background people.

• Posted by: albertthedog • Report Comment

18 HOURS IN POLICE CELL – FOR DROPPING APPLE

10.05.08, 10:26pm

Funny how you never see these litter wardens on bin days when the binmen drop most of the rubbish on the road.
What you betting if this was a 15 year old lad who dropped the apple core, can of beer in one hand, and a fag hanging out of his mouth, the litter warden wouldn't have seen it happen and would have continued on his merry way until he saw an old lady drop a piece of fluff.

• Posted by: V • Report Comment

PERSPECTIVE

10.05.08, 9:26pm

This may sound bad however the police have statutory powers and also common law powers .
A common law power available to them is if they are unable to confirm someones details they can arest them and take them to a police station so that the can make enquiry into finding out who they are .Doesn`t matter if its a major or minor crime. If somones detsails can`t be confirmed how can they receive a sumons through the post to attend at court ?

• Posted by: rodg16 • Report Comment

COR, WOT A LOAD O' BOVVER

10.05.08, 9:25pm

Well, expressos, what a pathetic tale of coppers with egos bigger than brains. Hurt pride cop takes in "suspect to teach him a lesson in police authority and show him who's boss, It would just happen to be a decent bloke from the sound of it. There was a song going around - Where have all the young men gone" - remember it? today it's " Where have all the MEN gone ? " Far, far away.

• Posted by: bluenote • Report Comment

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THE REAL BAD APPLES

10.05.08, 9:19pm

So why dont they start by getting the real bad apples 'scum bags'' off the streets ..or are the police afraid of them!


Police van parks in disabled parking space..!!!

• Posted by: Major • Report Comment

LET''S GET THE STORY RIGHT

10.05.08, 3:26pm

The guy did not spend the night in prison for dropping litter, he was locked-up because he refused to give his name and address. Catching litter louts is part of the community policeman's job. Serves him right - next time he is caught dropping his apple core he would be well advised to admit it and give his name and address then it would only cost him £50 and he can spend the night at home instead of a cell.

• Posted by: G0LDENARR0W • Report Comment

THE POLICE LET THEMSELVES DOWN

10.05.08, 2:12pm

Petty offences are not the police work they should stick to real crime such as theft and drugs how would they fair if I accidentally dropped an apple core and couldn't pick it up because I have a problem with spine the same is with a man with an heart problem he may not be able to pick it up. It was not intentional.
Silly Copper.

• Posted by: Nemesisnow • Report Comment

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