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Has Labour's mishandling of immigration ruined Britain?

MINISTERS have no idea how many immigrants are coming to Britain, according to a damning report by MPs.

IMMIGRATION AND GOVERNMENT INCOMPETENCE

08.09.08, 9:49am

In the whelter of self-serving panick gripping MPs about immigration, it should be remembered that African nurses have been recruited on contract to work in our Nursing Homes and Care Homes, caring for our elderly people. There are insufficient English carers to work in this ever expanding area.
These African nurses don't deprive any English person of a job.
They tend to be better educated than their English equivalents and harder working.
It would be a serious mistake, and another government incompetence, to exclude these nurses from our country and diminish their rights to live here.

• Posted by: letsgetreal • Report Comment

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STRANGELY ENOUGH PETER

06.06.08, 9:34pm

Its not just the mayonnaise but the prawns themselves are high in cholestrol.

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MARIGOLD

06.06.08, 8:11pm

........ and he eats too many high calorie, fattening crustacean sandwiches avec cholesterol generating mayonnaise don't you know!

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THANK YOU PETER

06.06.08, 7:52pm

But I bet there will be one person here that will find fault with my post.

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MARIGOLD

06.06.08, 7:07pm

i don't think you were "off topic" actually.

Your post is a very good response to Mr Prawn's last post. You have given him a very good explanation of why we, in Great Britain, could reduce our food consumption and actually do ourselves good. Much of what is imported is wasted or just makes us all fat.

(Oh sorry, how un PC of me, i mean obese,of course).

:-)



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PRAWNSANDWICH

06.06.08, 7:02pm


Ah, so you don't like the Greens either then. Nothing pleases Mr Prawn.

Absolutely nothing.

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SORRY TO GO OFF TOPIC IN PREVIOUS POST

06.06.08, 4:52pm

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TALKING ABOUT FOOD

06.06.08, 4:35pm

Many people buy, eat, leave, and throw away
far too much food.
With obesity at high levels in the UK it appears we could cut production if people would only consume what their bodies need.
Small portions of nutritous food are all that is required unless someone is training hard or doing hard pysical work/ excercise.
Every time I go to the supermarket and see trolleys stuffed with biscuits, cakes, fizzy pop, crisps I despair. The body doesnt need or want them !

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PETER

06.06.08, 4:23pm

in the past, i actually offered you some suggestions of how to help local industry and farming. in the form of the slow food movement and the hundred mile diet. you seem to have ignored those, but you should check them out if you really care about such things.

but incidentally, britian has never been a self-sufficient country. our wealth was build on the basis of colonialism, if you remember. importing raw materials form other places and manufacturing them. we have pretty much always been in a global system.

furthermore, your isolationalist localism will result in a much lower material standard of living for britons. i think you would have a tough time selling that. the greens have been trying to do that for ages and have got almost nowhere.

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SIMPLISTIC

05.06.08, 9:27pm

Seems to me a very much abused word.......

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PRAWNSANDWICH

05.06.08, 8:14pm

My question was meant for another poster, crayfishbanker. However all I can say is that we will have to use our initiative. If you are right, and we do not want the country ending up as a slum we will have to do more to protect our local industry. We must do more to deter imports, do more to build up alternative sources of local production and basically become as self-sufficient as possible to reduce our so-called dependence on the global market place.

All it takes is a bit of brain power really.



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PETER

05.06.08, 6:42pm

"As you must know, as an economist, supply and demand finds its own level. That is an economic fact. If you reduce the supply of foreign labour, the domestic economy will adjust to compensate for it. There will be fewer mouths to feed, less people to house and less people on the roads. The original population will work harder, become more productive and generate more wealth for themselves."

--that is completely simplistic and addled.

the uk is not a closed system. it operates in a global environment of trade and labour. the supply of foreing labour is there, whether it be here or in other countries. and the ones in other countries will work for a lot less than we will.

so, either our industries move to other countries to remain competitive, or they bring in people who can work competitively, both in terms of wages, education and ethic.
If they stay here, that means more jobs for us, more profit for british companies, creating yet more good jobs for us.

if they leave. those jobs dissapear. and we import cheap goods from everywhere else.

get it yet?

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HOW SAD OUR COUNTRY HAS BECOME

05.06.08, 1:46am

This country is ruined beyond repair for the British people.
The crazy policy on immigration was just labours
way of keeping wages low.
The tax burden gas water electric diesel a loaf of bread the country has gone mad.
They along with the banks sat back and let house prices get out of control
I am glad i am not a young person starting out in this country i don,t wonder they are turning to drink so young.

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CFB

04.06.08, 3:20pm

Here is a repeat of my post. Is it too difficult for you?

CFB
02.06.08, 7:49pm

I have been off this thread for quite a while and I just noticed your post of 21.05.08, 11:37am

“Without foreign workers, there would be a lot less industry and agriculture in this country”.

As you must know, as an economist, supply and demand finds its own level. That is an economic fact. If you reduce the supply of foreign labour, the domestic economy will adjust to compensate for it. There will be fewer mouths to feed, less people to house and less people on the roads. The original population will work harder, become more productive and generate more wealth for themselves. Most importantly the original population will feel better. Feelings come before economics.


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