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Betrayal fear as PM holds secret Falklands talks

GORDON Brown will this week spark fears that the Falkland Islands could be handed back to Argentina by holding secret discussions about the future of the territory.

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THE ONLY SUPERIOR EQUIPMENT YOU JOHNNY GOUCHO'S HAD...

02.04.09, 11:15am

were your boots. The leather, was of higher quality than ours because generally, Argie cattle is probably the best in the world after Scottish beef.

• Posted by: HarveymiffReport Comment

ARGIE SOLDIERS WERE AS BRAVE AS ANYONE ELSE

27.03.09, 3:25pm

Despite what Mr John Derby rudely holds, and to put the record straight, please note that our young, conscript, soldiers were brave enough as to withstand the attacks by Gurkas (savagely sent forward by some English officers who wouldn't dare to face death) as well as the latest electronics in terms of firepower, as opposed to our slings and arrows, that finally led us to an outrageous fortune. On the other hand, mining is necessary to create passive defences around a position. I can agree with the fact that British soldiers have a great history of their own, full of triumphs as well as some glorious defeats. We have a shorter history showing about the same, including defeat of two English invasions to Buenos Ayres in 1806 and 1807, more to humble Spain than to really conquer the country. But no English gentleman can have the cheek to accuse our soldiers to be cowards while their own military hierarchy have said the opposite. Gentlemen however are, I'm afraid, a species in extinction.

• Posted by: Argie40Report Comment

ARGENTINIAN "SOLDIERS"

23.03.09, 10:45pm

Interesting to hear an Argentinian view. Unfortunately your idea of your "boys" is clearly more propoganda which you seem to have sadly believed.

It was not innocent "boys" who carried out the cowardly attack on the Sir Galagad burning innocent boys to death, including the youngest to die in that war.

I saw your "boys" at work, leaving cowardly booby traps, and covering vast tracts of land with thousands of land mines designed to blow a man's legs off. These are the tactics of the terrorist and the coward - not the tactics of real men.

Your troops were cowards, ready to shoot us in the back, happy to blow our legs off with land mines, but anxious to surrender the instant the tide turned against them.

The Falklands are British, and they will stay British. Too many good men died to keep them British and those of us who returned will never allow Brown and his treacherous government to betray our collegues or us.

How Britain governs them is not the concern of Argentina.

Would I return to the Falklands to defend them again? Yes and so would many more.

• Posted by: John_DerbyReport Comment

ARGENTINIAN "SOLDIERS"

23.03.09, 10:44pm

Interesting to hear an Argentinian view. Unfortunately your idea of your "boys" is clearly more propoganda which you seem to have sadly believed.

It was not innocent "boys" who carried out the cowardly attack on the Sir Galagad burning innocent boys to death, including the youngest to die in that war.

I saw your "boys" at work, leaving cowardly booby traps, and covering vast tracts of land with thousands of land mines designed to blow a man's legs off. These are the tactics of the terrorist and the coward - not the tactics of real men.

Your troops were cowards, ready to shoot us in the back, happy to blow our legs off with land mines, but anxious to surrender the instant the tide turned against them.

The Falklands are British, and they will stay British. Too many good men died to keep them British and those of us who returned will never allow Brown and his treacherous government to betray our collegues or us.

How Britain governs them is not the concern of Argentina.

Would I return to the Falklands to defend them again? Yes and so would many more.

• Posted by: John_DerbyReport Comment

TRAITOR BROWN

23.03.09, 10:29pm

Why is anyone surprised, he's already committed treason on the British people and got away with it, why he's govt and not jail i do not know. One day when the people of this country wake up he might get his come uppance.

• Posted by: ZordanaReport Comment

ONE THING WAS OUR GOVERNMENT & QUITE ANOTHER OUR SOLDIERS

23.03.09, 8:57pm

Evil Argies, Argy-Bargy, you can call us as many names as I may call you dudes. But none of you, British subjects, can give here the names of islanders killed in that stupid war. Well, one died, but it was an accident.

Our soldiers (18-20 year old boys, btw) were not against the natives and wouldn't have harmed them. Maggie sent the boats because no one but a true-blue Conservative would have had the guts to confront, and she was also walking the political plank at the time. Moreover, the Labour was ready, not long before, to hand the isles out...

You Brits talk about the islanders British nationality and that they pay their taxes. Why is it then that the UK does not help the islands' people, exception made of military 'protection'?

They need more money, not just what they can obtain from their meagre mechanisms (tourism, fishing permits, &c). They need good, fully equpped hospitals, schools and hundreds of miles of inland tarmac roads.

They need alternative landing strips and planes to carry people from one place to other. They need more good ports along the Falkland Sound.

They badly need the Stanley port to be refurbished and expanded to accomodate the large liners, the fishing boats and the general cargo ships. Its budget was to come from own resources. England stoped this project dead, even when she wouldn't contribute a penny. It appears that now there's a new project under MoD supervision. New leaders, new chances...

Much blah, blah, I'm afraid. Cheers.

• Posted by: Argie40Report Comment

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WHAT IS HE PLAYING AT ?

23.03.09, 8:17pm

The UK is falling apart & this man goes off to the Falklands, whatever for at such a time ?

Could this be running away from bad news again ?

Or is he so short of money he's going to 'sell ' the Falklands off like he did the gold !!

• Posted by: KatieReport Comment

BETRAL FEAR AS PM HOLDS TALKS REGARDING FALKLANDS

23.03.09, 7:02pm

And why shouldn't the PM hold talks about the Falklands? I think that it was totally ridiculous that we were ever involved in that stupid war in the first place. The damn place is so many thousands of miles away and of course, by right, it is close to Argentina and of course they should have it. That was such a terrible waste of young lives - thanks to Margaret Thatcher.

Let's face it - the commonwealth is long since gone and how could people be so stupid as to go to battle - in these so called enlightened times - when we should have put a stop to the murderous jingoism a hell of a long time ago.

You see, Life matters and we have to start telling our politicians to get the proverbial finger out and grow up. The World needs to become more civilised - not less. So Good Luck Mr Brown - get those silly islands out of our lives and out of our wallets!!

• Posted by: FirReport Comment

WE NEVER INVADED. WE CAME BACK.

23.03.09, 6:58pm

The Falklands/Malvinas issue is a problem for us Argentines. Capt Silas Duncan of the US Navy took our people prisoners in January 1832 in a clear act of piracy, and 'declared' the islands free. The English entered and set foot for good, soon after. From our point of view neither Mr Duncan nor the US had no right but the number of their cannon to take the islands from us and destroy our homes and installations. 150 years later, unfortunately, we were governed by a de facto group of military scoundrels who, knowing their days were coming to an end tried a last, 'patriotic' effort to save their necks.

They lost theirs and ours. A long, superb acquaintance, pletoric of goodwill and trust between us and the descendants of the original English settlers was smashed. Hundreds died for no reason except to satisfy the blood-thirsty both in Argentina and England, and to my humble view, all hope of Argentina to recover the islands was lost there.

Our soldiers were careful not to kill any islanders who, in turn (?)were friendly with out boys. Yes, boys. 18 to 20 years-old, full of faith and fear.

Nobody can say that we invaded. We came back...

• Posted by: Argie40Report Comment

BROWN SPITS ON THE GRAVES OF HERO'S

23.03.09, 6:12pm

The Falkland Islanders are British, just as British as the traitorous Scotsman who now intends to betray the British troops who fought and died to repell the cowardly attack by Argentina.

This quivering jely who calls himself Prime Minister, but, who in reality is not fit to be in charge of a whelk stall, has the audacity to send our tropps to Afghanistan & Iran saying they are fighting to bring freedom and democracy to those countries, yet, at the same time looks set to carry out a dirty little deal to hand over a British colony to a totally undemocratic third world country.

Good men fought and died in the Falklands. Some of us were lucky enough to come home again. Does Brown think for one second that he will be allowed to spit on the graves of our comrades asd give one inch of the Falklands away? away?

If he does then the troops wil wonder if he will do the same in Iraq and Afghanistan. Why should they risk their lives if he is simply going to betray them too?

Brown should be tried as the traitor that he is. l

• Posted by: John_DerbyReport Comment

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WHY DID WE WANT THEM AGAIN?

23.03.09, 3:07pm

I remember that Maggie had become PM and we needed to send a Task Force to protect the British Citizens from the evil Argies. Argy Bargy was the headline. I was very patriotic but some of my friends thought it was wrong.

It was touch and go but thankfully the Falklands remained British.

Over the years I have noticed a patern.
New Leader => New War

Have we been played for fools? Was the Falklands just a little war for our new leader. Perhaps it was not vital that we protect the Falklands after all?

Was 9/11 to help Bush?
Was 7/7 to help Tony?
What will be the war that helps Gordon, Credit Crunch?

• Posted by: WaylandReport Comment

FALKLANDS.............EDUCATION.

23.03.09, 1:20pm

The Belgrano principle..............Likened to 'Bad' immigrants into UK. Come alive man come alive.
If not directly involved in violence / terrorism, the immigrant 'scroungers' are 'exceedingly ' harmfull to citizens of UK. Otherwise...! Well, think outside of the box.....

• Posted by: juan01Report Comment

WHAT DO THE FALKLAND ISLANDERS WANT ?

23.03.09, 1:17pm

Gordon brown has no right to negotiate anything with the Argentinians without the consent of the Islanders, they are not property to be bartered in some kind of international deal. They are British taxpayers end entitled to all the protection and rights of other british citizens.

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'LIL GIB NEXT

23.03.09, 12:57pm

Dunno whether to post this in english or in spanish....
Hola....una cerverza porfavorrrrrrrrrrr!

• Posted by: AffenKidReport Comment

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I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT IF GALTIERI HAD NOT INVADED THE FALKLANDS, WE COULD BE IN DIALOGUE WITH ARGENTINA NOW.

23.03.09, 12:13pm

Playing Devil's advocate here, why did we need to continue to support a few stills on the other side of the world? Firstly, because 100% of the population want it that way. Secondly, because of a South American dictator's whims, we lost hundreds of brave British troops in liberating the islands.

We were accused of fighting the Argies because of the rich mineral rights and oil in the region. OK, it's been nearly 30 years that have passed - where is the oil? If oil was the reason, why did we not take back Nigeria?

It's not about oil, it's all about preserving democracy where a population, almost all of whom, wish to remain under British sovereignty. When a time comes in the future that the Stills wish to consider sharing or even becoming full time Argies, then I am sure that talks can begin about letting the Argies have what they want. In the meantime however, there is no harm in talking to the Argies and discussing the Falklands with them.

Sovereignty of nations should be decided by the people of that nation, not by invasion of foreign powers. If the Argies try again to invade the Falklands, they will end up with another broken nose.

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