UK NEWS
EMAILS SPARK MORE DATA LOSS QUERIES
Thursday November 22,2007
Alistair Darling is facing renewed questions over his account of the loss of child benefit records containing personal details of 25 million people after the release of internal Whitehall emails.
The Tories claimed the emails cast fresh doubt on the Chancellor's claims that the loss of the database was down to a junior official in the HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) offices in Washington, Tyne and Wear, who ignored proper procedures.
The emails also reveal that the National Audit Office (NAO) explicitly urged HMRC to ensure that the data was delivered "as safely as possible due to their content".
Mr Darling's Commons statement on Tuesday that two CDs containing the information had failed to reach the NAO in London after being sent through HMRC's internal post system sparked fears they could fall into the hands of fraudsters.
The Conservatives said the emails, released by the NAO, proved the NAO had only asked the HMRC to send limited details from its database - stripping out information such as bank account numbers.
A covering letter also confirmed that a senior HMRC manager was copied in to another email rejecting the request to remove the data the NAO did not want as this would involve HMRC in additional costs. The Treasury, however, insisted that the picture revealed by the emails was fully consistent with Mr Darling's statement to Parliament.
The initial exchange of emails related to an earlier request in March by the NAO for details from the HMRC child benefit database. An email from an NAO official states: "I do not need address, bank or parent details in download - are these removable to make the file smaller?"
However, a subsequent internal HMRC email states: "I must stress we must make use of data we hold and not over burden the business by asking them to run additional data scans/filters that may incur a cost to the department." The names of senders and recipients are blacked out. However a covering letter said that a senior HMRC manager - the "process owner" for child benefit - was copied into the second email which had been sent by a junior HMRC manager.
The letter, written by NAO assistant auditor general Caroline Mawhood to HMRC acting chairman Dave Hartnett, said there was no evidence that the process owner made the decision to release the data. On that occasion the CDs arrived safely. However the NAO also released the email it sent to HMRC in October requesting that the data is sent again.
It said: "We require this data for our audit. Last time we had 100 zipped files on 2 CDs. Please could you ensure that the CDs are delivered to the NAO as safely as possible due to their content." This time the CDs failed to arrive.
ELGAR AND DYLAN
23.11.07, 1:52pm
i wondered how long it would take you to blame it on the immigrants?
Posted by: Ali_Malik Report Comment
ON 12TH NOVEMBER
22.11.07, 10:02pm
It was reported that around 5000 illegal immigrants had been given clearance to work as security staff in some of the country's most sensitive buildings.
The Home Office allowed the immigrants to take jobs at ports and airports, and also government buildings, even though they have no legal right to be in the UK.
It is believed that, among the thousands given work in security, some are with the Metropolitan Police. Some have been employed as cleaners at the Home Office and the man responsible for checking Gordon Brown's car for booby trap bombs is himself an illegal immigrant.
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Some might think its conspiracy to subvert the State, and present terrorists and fraudsters with the personal details of British citizens.
Others that the longed-for rainbow wonderland isn't far off now.
Either way, all you have to do is carry on voting for it.
Posted by: Dylan Report Comment
LOSS OF VOTES
22.11.07, 8:04pm
The government don't care that the details of my people have been lost, they only care that this debacle may lose them votes.
Scoundrels.
Posted by: GreenEngland Report Comment
DATA LOSS COSTS
22.11.07, 7:54pm
Apart from the cost of £200 million estimated by the Tax Payers Alliance(who seem to have a better grasp of waste than this idiotic govt.) we now as the tax payer have to cover the cost of the inquiries set up by the govt. Why should we have to pay fat cats SELECTED by Brown to tell us what went wrong because you can rest assured no flak will be directed at this pathetic govt. If as suggested Darling intimated that the banks wanted this fiasco kept secret and the Banks assoc. deny this and copies of E Mails showing that senior officers in HMRC were culpable in this fiasco I would have thought that there is a possibility that LIES were told in the Commons by ministers. Don't let us forget at the next general election that this pathetic PM set up these changes.
Posted by: Daveyboy Report Comment
SINISTER ANGLE
22.11.07, 6:00pm
This whole debacle has a sinister angle, how can we be sure this was a bungling officials incompetence?
There are so many illegal immigrants working in sensitive government positions in our country it is not unthinkable that it was an intentional 'mistake' or a criminal act.
Posted by: Elgar1857 Report Comment
AND STILL....
22.11.07, 11:52am
We are not allowed an election.
Are we really living in Britain ?
Posted by: millieC Report Comment
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