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CLIMATE CHANGE 'FRAUD'


Wednesday December 2 2009

THE scientific consensus that mankind has caused climate change was rocked yesterday as a leading academic called it a “load of hot air underpinned by fraud”.

Professor Ian Plimer condemned the climate change lobby as “climate comrades” keeping the “gravy train” going.

In a controversial talk just days before the start of a climate summit attended by world leaders in Copenhagen, Prof Plimer said Governments were treating the public like “fools” and using climate change to increase taxes.

He said carbon dioxide has had no impact on temperature and that recent warming was part of the natural cycle of climate stretching over ­billions of years.

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If you have to argue your science by using fraud, your science is not valid.
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Professor Pilmer

Prof Plimer - author of Heaven and Earth: Global Warming, The Missing Science - told a London audience: “Climates always change. They always have and they always will. They are driven by a number of factors that are random and cyclical.”

His comments came days after a scandal in climate-change research emerged through the leak of emails from the world-leading research unit at the University of East Anglia. They appeared to show that scientists had been massaging data to prove that global warming was taking place

The Climate Research Unit also admitted getting rid of much of its raw climate data, which means other scientists cannot check the subsequent research. Last night the head of the CRU, Professor Phil Jones, said he would stand down while an independent review took place.

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Professor Plimer said climate change was caused by natural events such as volcanic eruptions, the shifting of the Earth’s orbit and cosmic radiation. He said: “Carbon dioxide levels have been up to 1,000 times higher in the past. CO2 cannot be driving global warming now.

“In the past we have had rapid and significant climate change with temperature changes greater than anything we are measuring today. They are driven by processes that have been going on since the beginning of time.”

He cited periods of warming during the Roman Empire and in the Middle Ages – when Vikings grew crops on Greenland – and cooler phases such as the Dark Ages and the Little Ice Age from 1300 to 1850.

And he predicted that the next phase would cool the planet.

Climate change is widely blamed on the burning of fossil fuels which release greenhouse gases such as CO2 into the atmosphere, where they trap the sun’s heat.

The talks at Copenhagen are expected to find ways to reduce greenhouse gas emissions globally.

But Professor Plimer, of Adelaide and Melbourne Universities, said that to stop climate change Governments should find ways to prevent changes to the Earth’s orbit and ocean currents and avoid explosions of supernovae in space. Of the saga of the leaked emails, he said: “If you have to argue your science by using fraud, your science is not valid.”

The CRU’s Professor Jones has admitted some of the emails may have had “poorly chosen words” and were sent in the “heat of the moment”. But he has categorically denied manipulating data and said he stood by the science. And yesterday he dismissed suggestions of a conspiracy to alter ­evidence to support a theory of man-made global warming as “complete rubbish”.

But mining geology professor Plimer said there was a huge momentum behind the climate-change lobby.

He suggested many scientists had a vested interest in promoting climate change because it helped secure more funding for research. He said: “The climate comrades are trying to keep the gravy train going. Governments are also keen on putting their hands as deep as possible into our pockets.

“The average person has been talked down to. He has been treated like a fool. Yet the average person has common sense.”

But Vicky Pope, head of Met Office Climate Change Advice, said: “We are seeing changes in climate on a timescale we have not seen before.

“There clearly are natural variations. But the only way we can explain these trends is when we include both man-made and natural changes to the climate.

“We have also seen declines in summer sea ice over the past 30 years, glaciers retreating for 150 years, changing rainfall patterns and increases in subsurface and surface ocean temperatures.”

And as the war of words between the rival camps intensified, leading economist Lord Stern dismissed the sceptics as “muddled”.

Lord Stern, who produced a detailed report on the issue for the Government, said evidence of ­climate change was “overwhelming”. He accepted that all views should be heard but said the degree of ­scepticism among “real scientists” was very small.



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THE GREAT GRAND FRAUD OF HISTORY

15.12.09, 1:08pm

The financial aspects of CO2 trade are so big that they make "oil" look like peanuts. At least "oil" is a tangible asset, but CO2 trade is a complete fake. In fact, oil, big business, merchant bankers, derivative market dealers, futures markets, financial wheeler dealers, sharks, conmen, the whole lots of them are all for AGW.

It is amazing to me that ECOs and Greenies, who are universally hostile to the above, do not realize that they have been co-opted to the greatest Grand Fraud in all history. It is not even to make money. Making money, i.e., making wealth is perfectly legitimate and laudable activity. This scam is not about that at all, but to facilitate, under the guise of common good, looting the public purse. More intimately - looting your purse, and yours, and mine.

In addition, stealing such large amounts of money out of the pockets of decent and hard working people, comes inevitable corruption - corruption of the political process, corruption of governance, and eventually stagnation and decay from the stench of corruption.

My fear is that this CO2 market is going to last another year or so. It can't go on for much longer without bursting. In the meantime though, hundreds of billions of pounds will have been hoovered out of our collective pockets, artificially high energy bills, and mortality rate for older people, will increase over the winter.

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NUMERACY

05.12.09, 8:31am

Unfortunately, the good perfesser lost it when trying to say how much CO2 was higher in the past. Not 1,000 times, but 1,000%. Which is 10X.

It's veerrry 'barrassin' when people I agree with make doofus numerical errors.

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CARBON TAX & TRADING

04.12.09, 10:11pm

You can bet on one thing:

Carbon Taxes & Trading Offsets is yet another scam to take money off regular people.

People are still not complaining loudly enough about the Bank Bailout Scam. Just how much looming tax will every one stand for while big business buys politicians and scientists. Shame on you all.

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CRU EMAILS

04.12.09, 6:57pm

Scientific method ?
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I hope I don't get a call from congress !
I'm hoping that no-one there realizes
I have a US DoE grant and have had this
(with Tom W.) for the last 25 years.
http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=545&filename=.txt
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I hope you're not right about the lack of
warming lasting till about 2020.
I know the warming is on the decadal
scale, but it would be nice to wear their
smug grins away.
http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=948&filename=1231190304.txt




• Posted by: Blue321Report Comment

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ISN'T SCIENCE ABOUT 'SEEKING TRUTH FROM FACTS'?

04.12.09, 6:45am

Exactly WHAT 'science' is being relied upon by those who believe that Co2 emissions caused by burning fossil fuels are causing global warning/climate change?

If it is the 'science' produced by the UN International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and the Climate Research Unit (CRU) - shouldn't the 'BUS TO COPENHAGEN' be stopped immediately?

What EXACTLY are Governments planning to sign up to at Copenhagen anyway?
ANYBODY got a summary of the details?
For more evidence of how (some) scientists have lied about the $WINE FLU as well as GLOBAL WARMING - www.theflucase.com

• Posted by: PennyBrightReport Comment

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CLIMATE CHANGE 'FRAUD'

03.12.09, 7:22pm

Watch OLIVER TEMPLE SMITH on You Tube – he’s the only politician being honest about what’s really going on.

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